Bar Fights

[frugle]

So, I was at the bar the other day and these kids got into a fight about who spilled the drink on who. They looked in their mid 20s, and were both tossed out of the bar. Anyone else think that they are too old for this shit?

[Lover123]

Too old? They should be considring you're an adult and can decipher between right and wrong. But I'd say its pretty common in this age group... especially if it was A. an expensive drink B. dickhead type remarks were exchanged and/or C. These guys needed to impress someone or were looking for a fight. Of course there are other ways to settle a minor dispute like this and most people are decent about buying another drink but there aren't too many mature people at bars these days. I feel like everytime I go out there's some kind of fight happening.

[TheDirty]

Yea, i dont understand that shit, I've never went out to a bar with that mentality, its about having a good time, not gaining beer muscles and wanting to fight with someone, there's a lot of people out there like that, and they always ruin good shit. The other night at Willie's some drunk kid got out of control, and the bouncer grabbed him and was taking him out the door, next thing you know, his friend grabs the bouncer, next thing you know, the other bouncer comes over then this kid is on the floor twisted like a pretzel LOL.. SCREAMING "let go of my leg" it was pretty funny... but the point is, why in the first place act like a drunk asshole, and if you're asked to leave, why the f would you try to fight the bouncer? thats just silly shit....

[JMW]

Too old? They should be considring you're an adult and can decipher between right and wrong. But I'd say its pretty common in this age group... especially if it was A. an expensive drink B. dickhead type remarks were exchanged and/or C. These guys needed to impress someone or were looking for a fight. Of course there are other ways to settle a minor dispute like this and most people are decent about buying another drink but there aren't too many mature people at bars these days. I feel like everytime I go out there's some kind of fight happening.

Yes, I concur with your feelings about how it seems that some types of people are only looking for trouble. While such "beer muscle" scenarios are possible anywhere alcohol is served, the evidence always points to the younger or young-minded crowd, to be the ones causing problems. Also, nine times out of ten, big fights tend to break out in dance clubs, for very obvious reasons.

That's why I tend to avoid Joey's in Clifton, Doc's in Clifton, Club Boom in Clifton, Tribeca in Ft. Lee, and various other places the encourage the congregation of buffoons. I avoid all Jersey Shore sites, because it seems like there's a fight every five minutes, over which caveman is better than the next, and which caveman is going to take the pretty blonde movie star home. (No offense to blonde women, I was making a joke about King Kong.)

But you get the idea. What can I say? I like classic rock, rock, and metal. The reason why those idiots don't congregate in rocker bars, is because the Hells Angels that they employ as bouncers, will actually give these meatheads a real beating. A beating like they've never had before. Like, they'll end up in a dumpster. Big goony fat guys like my cousin, house wannabe "tough guys" like this for a living.

I like places where the music has meaning, and there's no mindless bass, undefinable sounds, and repetitive beats. Also, the big goony fat guys keep the peace amongst the crowd, and disallow drunk and steroid-abusing morons to cause a problem.

Apparently, to these idiots, one's toughness is decided by how big one's inflate-a-muscles appear, and not by whether one really knows how to fight. Speaking of fights, I've seen plenty of tiny dudes, kick the everliving piss out of guys that are twice their size.

[JMW]

Yea, i dont understand that shit, I've never went out to a bar with that mentality, its about having a good time, not gaining beer muscles and wanting to fight with someone, there's a lot of people out there like that, and they always ruin good shit. The other night at Willie's some drunk kid got out of control, and the bouncer grabbed him and was taking him out the door, next thing you know, his friend grabs the bouncer, next thing you know, the other bouncer comes over then this kid is on the floor twisted like a pretzel LOL.. SCREAMING "let go of my leg" it was pretty funny... but the point is, why in the first place act like a drunk asshole, and if you're asked to leave, why the f would you try to fight the bouncer? thats just silly shit....

See what I mean, the big goony fat-guy bouncers, work everytime!

That's pretty funny though, I wish that I was a fly on the wall for that shit!

[Diane]

I was at the funky monkey and at the end of the night they are kicking everyone out and there are cops out in front of the bar like usual, well these two bone heads go outside and start a fight right in front of the cops! The were both arrested and I laughed my ass off , they dont come much dumber then that.

[Thordic]

I havn't been in a while, but there were ALWAYS fights at Fatsos. 

You get a bunch of guys drunk, have them competing over girls, and fights are bound to happen.

I'm not someone who goes around looking for trouble, and I havn't been involved in many barfights, but sometimes you are just out at the bar in a bad mood and if someone starts with you, you just aren't in the mood to put up with it.  Thats where it starts.  Or some people just enjoy barfights.

As for age, I don't think that really matters.  Sure, you are probably more likely to fight in general from say, 16 to 21, but when you throw alcohol into the mix age starts to become less a factor.

[NikiT1982]

Too old? They should be considring you're an adult and can decipher between right and wrong. But I'd say its pretty common in this age group... especially if it was A. an expensive drink B. dickhead type remarks were exchanged and/or C. These guys needed to impress someone or were looking for a fight. Of course there are other ways to settle a minor dispute like this and most people are decent about buying another drink but there aren't too many mature people at bars these days. I feel like everytime I go out there's some kind of fight happening.

Yes, I concur with your feelings about how it seems that some types of people are only looking for trouble. While such "beer muscle" scenarios are possible anywhere alcohol is served, the evidence always points to the younger or young-minded crowd, to be the ones causing problems. Also, nine times out of ten, big fights tend to break out in dance clubs, for very obvious reasons.

That's why I tend to avoid Joey's in Clifton, Doc's in Clifton, Club Boom in Clifton, Tribeca in Ft. Lee, and various other places the encourage the congregation of buffoons. I avoid all Jersey Shore sites, because it seems like there's a fight every five minutes, over which caveman is better than the next, and which caveman is going to take the pretty blonde movie star home. (No offense to blonde women, I was making a joke about King Kong.)

But you get the idea. What can I say? I like classic rock, rock, and metal. The reason why those idiots don't congregate in rocker bars, is because the Hells Angels that they employ as bouncers, will actually give these meatheads a real beating. A beating like they've never had before. Like, they'll end up in a dumpster. Big goony fat guys like my cousin, house wannabe "tough guys" like this for a living.

I like places where the music has meaning, and there's no mindless bass, undefinable sounds, and repetitive beats. Also, the big goony fat guys keep the peace amongst the crowd, and disallow drunk and steroid-abusing morons to cause a problem.

Apparently, to these idiots, one's toughness is decided by how big one's inflate-a-muscles appear, and not by whether one really knows how to fight. Speaking of fights, I've seen plenty of tiny dudes, kick the everliving piss out of guys that are twice their size.

okay...Clifton's are getting a rap here haha - BUT Doc's is in Totowa....I REFUSE to go to Joey's (never been and never will)....

But i must say i have seen a good amount of fights recently - a few at the bars on the water front in Hoboken, and at a few jersey clubs. Guys..C'mon now - can't you find a better way to settle an issue??? We girls don't like getting thrown across a dance floor, cuz some HUGE bouncer is barreling towards two guys duking it out,or having beer sprayed on us from bottles being cracked on fellow patron's heads..(it happened at Tommy Fox's)!!! Its not fun and i dont like worrying about stepping on broken glass......and the fighting just makes you look like immature assholes.....If i was out with a guy that was a fighter like that...I'd probably never talk to him again.  I expect more from a person

[JMW]

okay...Clifton's are getting a rap here haha - BUT Doc's is in Totowa....I REFUSE to go to Joey's (never been and never will)....

But i must say i have seen a good amount of fights recently - a few at the bars on the water front in Hoboken, and at a few jersey clubs. Guys..C'mon now - can't you find a better way to settle an issue??? We girls don't like getting thrown across a dance floor, cuz some HUGE bouncer is barreling towards two guys duking it out,or having beer sprayed on us from bottles being cracked on fellow patron's heads..(it happened at Tommy Fox's)!!! Its not fun and i dont like worrying about stepping on broken glass......and the fighting just makes you look like immature assholes.....If i was out with a guy that was a fighter like that...I'd probably never talk to him again.  I expect more from a person

I used to hang out in Tommy Fox's when it wasn't so trendy, and it was a hole in the wall. My friends used to bounce there. As for Doc's, yeah I guess it is in Totowa. I got confused, because they're all in the same area, with the same crowd. Actually, recently I've found that I rather go to a lounge, or comedy club, or jazz club in Manhattan, than put up with Jersey crap. I will say that I've never had a problem at the Cottage in Teaneck. However, just down the block is Geronimo's, where last year somebody got stabbed to death, because hip gangsta wannabes encountered angry real gangstas, and got shived... to death. My cousin and I were coming back from the Cottage, and we saw the cops, the paramedics, and the coronor. That usually happens in Passaic, Hudson, and Essex Counties, but I think these dudes were from New York and Paterson. I guess they brought the ghetto to our quiet little neighborhood. There were a lot of fights at the former Metro Lounge and the now-defunct Junk Yard. I saw a few fights at Bourbon Street in Hillsdale, but they usually get pounced out by it's huge bouncer, and the "fightin' patrons" usually stick to "Queensberry Rules". Plus the Police Department is next door, to get egotistically tough when needed.

But if you're in  the mood for a good ol' fashioned Irish Bare-knuckle Brawl, head up to Pearl River, New York. Cause after the fight is over, the loser has to buy a round of drinks for everybody. If you lose really badly, they make up an Old Fashioned Irish Drinking Song about you, to further add to your humiliation. But the best part about Pearl River, is the extremely attractive Irish women, and the fact that you can be thirteen and get into the bar, as long as your a member of one of the local Irish families. I find that to be amusing.

Nobody ever cards them... 

We've got statutory booty walking around, getting drunk, and hitting on thirty year-olds. That's wunderbar...

In addition, in the middle of the winter, when there's a blizzard, Pearl River has the only bars open.. with two feet of snow on the ground.

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night, stays these barkeeps from the swift servage of their appointed rounds of Guinness and Harp."

I once overheard this conversation, that was taking place... about my ass...

"He's got such a great ass... I really wanna smack it..."

It's always good to say it so loud, that the dude hears it, while he's playing pool...

In other words, the women are not shy, and they'll make it know if they like you.

So what were we talking about? I don't remember... something about idiots fighting... but I feel like going to Pearl River tonight.

[NikiT1982]

okay...Clifton's are getting a rap here haha - BUT Doc's is in Totowa....I REFUSE to go to Joey's (never been and never will)....

But i must say i have seen a good amount of fights recently - a few at the bars on the water front in Hoboken, and at a few jersey clubs. Guys..C'mon now - can't you find a better way to settle an issue??? We girls don't like getting thrown across a dance floor, cuz some HUGE bouncer is barreling towards two guys duking it out,or having beer sprayed on us from bottles being cracked on fellow patron's heads..(it happened at Tommy Fox's)!!! Its not fun and i dont like worrying about stepping on broken glass......and the fighting just makes you look like immature assholes.....If i was out with a guy that was a fighter like that...I'd probably never talk to him again.  I expect more from a person

I used to hang out in Tommy Fox's when it wasn't so trendy, and it was a hole in the wall. My friends used to bounce there. As for Doc's, yeah I guess it is in Totowa. I got confused, because they're all in the same area, with the same crowd. Actually, recently I've found that I rather go to a lounge, or comedy club, or jazz club in Manhattan, than put up with Jersey crap. I will say that I've never had a problem at the Cottage in Teaneck. However, just down the block is Geronimo's, where last year somebody got stabbed to death, because hip gangsta wannabes encountered angry real gangstas, and got shived... to death. My cousin and I were coming back from the Cottage, and we saw the cops, the paramedics, and the coronor. That usually happens in Passaic, Hudson, and Essex Counties, but I think these dudes were from New York and Paterson. I guess they brought the ghetto to our quiet little neighborhood. There were a lot of fights at the former Metro Lounge and the now-defunct Junk Yard. I saw a few fights at Bourbon Street in Hillsdale, but they usually get pounced out by it's huge bouncer, and the "fightin' patrons" usually stick to "Queensberry Rules". Plus the Police Department is next door, to get egotistically tough when needed.

But if you're in  the mood for a good ol' fashioned Irish Bare-knuckle Brawl, head up to Pearl River, New York. Cause after the fight is over, the loser has to buy a round of drinks for everybody. If you lose really badly, they make up an Old Fashioned Irish Drinking Song about you, to further add to your humiliation. But the best part about Pearl River, is the extremely attractive Irish women, and the fact that you can be thirteen and get into the bar, as long as your a member of one of the local Irish families. I find that to be amusing.

Nobody ever cards them... 

We've got statutory booty walking around, getting drunk, and hitting on thirty year-olds. That's wunderbar...

In addition, in the middle of the winter, when there's a blizzard, Pearl River has the only bars open.. with two feet of snow on the ground.

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night, stays these barkeeps from the swift servage of their appointed rounds of Guinness and Harp."

I once overheard this conversation, that was taking place... about my ass...

"He's got such a great ass... I really wanna smack it..."

It's always good to say it so loud, that the dude hears it, while he's playing pool...

In other words, the women are not shy, and they'll make it know if they like you.

So what were we talking about? I don't remember... something about idiots fighting... but I feel like going to Pearl River tonight.

Haha..whoa someone went a bit off topic..but good to know that in case i feel like meeting hot irish women that kow how to show that they are interested, i should go to Pearl River ...you know..if i liked chicks haha

[JMW]

Haha..whoa someone went a bit off topic..but good to know that in case i feel like meeting hot irish women that kow how to show that they are interested, i should go to Pearl River ...you know..if i liked chicks haha

..Uh...so...you like hot Irish chicks who engage in bar brawls? 

[NikiT1982]

Haha..whoa someone went a bit off topic..but good to know that in case i feel like meeting hot irish women that kow how to show that they are interested, i should go to Pearl River ...you know..if i liked chicks haha

..Uh...so...you like hot Irish chicks who engage in bar brawls? 

haha..like i said..IF i liked that sort of thing...i Like my boys thank you very much...

[Johnnybad]

Bar fights, I'd like to say that I have have countless stories about bar fights that i have been in but I'm too passive to even get in one, my story is about four guys I know very well, that thought it was badass to get in bar fights to show the world that they could take anyone, anywhere. The thing is two of them escaped persecution by running to Florida and now are wanted for putting a guy in a coma...I get the whole alpha thing, and believe me when I say, I'm no hippie and if it comes down to it I'll swing, but I ask ya, is it really worth it?

[Lover123]

Bar fights aren't just for guys. I've been out with my girlfriends when other girls will start by giving a look or say something rather loud and catty. God forbid, you know their boyfriend/hook up (not knowing they;re with anyone) and go to say hi or that you accidentally bump into someone. Then there are the token psych-hoes that I've had the pleasure of interracting with that will A.) just start with you for absoultely no reason and be completely fine with admitting it B.) the ones who see you with their ex-boyfriend or the guy they hooked up with months/years ago and will start with you over that C.) their friends who will start with you in place of them or D.) any combination of the above. Quite honestly it could end up being more of a good laugh than a fight in some cases. I'm sure there are plenty females on this board who could agree with me on this too.
I think what it comes down to is it's a mixture of alcohol and pure immaturity. It's also everywhere, not just at the clubs but at the bars and even tiny dive bars. You'll have the older men not liking the younger ones at their "spot" or not liking some new face that walked in despite of their age. I'm a firm believer that vodka is evil and will bring out the bad side in anyone, so goes it with other types of alcohol with other people. I mean lets face it, inhibitions go down and whether you're the happy drunk (like myself) who loves everyone or the mean drunk who wants to fight everyone, alcohol has an adverse effect on a person's normal pattern of thinking and decision making. I guess its just what goes with the scene but I think its kinda sad. But thankfully (for me at least) its not something I experience EVERYTIME i go out.

[Gonzo]

 I don't get involved in bar fights because I'm non-confrontational, but there is one fight that REALLY stays with me. Years ago, my attorney and I were in the middle of a strange night in Planet Rock in Hopatcong, which is now the Quick Chek with the gas pumps. We didn't see what happened but two guys, 22 at the oldest, go into it. The bouncers were saying something to them about "beer muscles" as they were dragging them outside. When I go out, I want a safe environment, and people like that just ruin it for me. I did, however, HAVE to make a comment to my attorney about him going out there, and giving his business cards to the fighters.